My essay on the career and work of Robert Mezey has just been published in The Hollins Critic, xlviii:2, April 2011, pp. 1-14, For a glimpse of it, go to http://www.hollins.edu/grad/eng_writing/critic/critic.htm (if this link doesn't work, just cut and paste it into your Web browser). A version of the essay may also be found in my book Dialects
of the Tribe: Postmodern American Poets and Poetry, Nacogdoches, TX: Stephen F. Austin State University Press, www.SFASU.edu/sfapress/, 2012, 336 pp.,
paperback.

Lew,
I want to congratulate you on the splendid article in Hollins Critic on Bob Mezey. Unfortunately I can't finish it until one of the Powows returns it, who took it home by mistake after our last workshop on Saturday, where I showed the issue and mentioned the article.
Rhina Espaillat
Rhina,
I'm happy your copy arrived, deeply mortified that somebody has already stolen it.
Lew
Dear Lew,
The issue of The Hollins Critic with your article on Mezey arrived in today's mail. Many thanks, not least of all for mentioning me at one point.
Historically, I should add that in spring semester, 1960, I was a student in Mezey's Understanding Poetry class, and I was also working at Renaissance II. I was rooming at a place over the Gamble's hardware store, over on Market St., on the second floor, and Lawson Inada had a room on the third floor. This was across from Pearson's Drug Store, where you could get a good tuna salad sandwich and a Green River at the soda fountain, and Hamburg Inn was just up Linn St. about a half a block. Mezey at this point lived over John's Grocery, a block up Market St., and across the street from Bernie's Foxhead Tavern. When Mezey left for Stanford, Vern and Joan Rutsala moved into that apartment. All three of these places were owned by three brothers, John, Bernie, and Don Alberhasky. (Somewhere along the line in the 70s, after Irene Kenney retired and closed her tavern, Bernie's Foxhead became the hangout place for Writer's Workshop people.) I think both Bernie's Foxhead and John's Grocery are still going.
Your article obviously involved a ton of analytical work, so huzzahs to you for that and for the historical filling-in. I didn't know about Don Justice’s first book, The Old Bachelor and Other Poems in 1951, or the death of Mezey's grandson — such a thing can never be easy. And the poem of his on that subject reminded me right away of a poem Mezey had us scan as an exercise in that class of his in 1960, Ben Jonson's "On my first son." The similarities are inescapable.
As to "A Coffee House Lecture," I'm fairly sure I was there when Mezey read it in public, but I didn't yet know Chris Wiseman at that point. In some ways now it almost seems unfair to lump Wiseman in with the illiterates of later poetizing. God knows, Chris is no chump when it comes to background, and he can turn a regular, rhymed, strictly metered poem with the best of them.
In any case, we're all old farts now, and we're probably all doomed because we don't have three names and we don't hang around the lower end of Manhattan and we don't have PhDs from Utah. (Utah? Whodofeverthunkit?)
Bob Berner
Dear Lew,
Thanks for sending me the copy of your essay on Bob Mezey. He is a poet who deserves such critical attention. I used to see him regularly, but I have completely lost touch with him since the death of his grandson. I have, in fact, been very worried about him. I was glad to glean from your essay that he is doing well, despite the reversals.
Dana Gioia
Dear Lew,
Thanks for posting those Iowa City memories of mine on your blog. The Iowa City we knew is history. It's been cutesy-poo'd and boutiqued and Californicated. Too bad.
Pax Tecum,
Bob Berner
You're welcome, Bob --
As long as I live I will remember wandering around Iowa City with you while you popped the questions on those flashcards at me so that I could memorize my answers to the M. A. exam I was to take. I bunked on the couch in Don Justice's clammy basement until the exam was over and I got back to Cleveland and my family. I still owe you a lot. I'm waiting for you to come up to Maine and collect.
Lew
Hi Lewis,
A pleasure to read "The Poems of Lewis Turco" in The Santa Cruz Good Times.html newspaper. Will you be at the Iowa Reunion in June? Planning on attending and be good to connect.
Best,
Robt. Sward
Went to the last one, Robert (the fiftieth),
And, with Bob Mezey, Vern Rutsala, and Chris Wiseman, I say they keep inviting the same crowd back and apparently our crowd isn't their crowd, so no, won’t be there this time.
Lew
Lew,
I didn't even know there was an Iowa Reunion!
I will, however, be in Iowa City this summer for much of June and part of July (my wife telecommutes to her job at the U but needs to be on site for 6 weeks in the summer). So if there's a reunion I should crash out of principle, please by all means let me know!
Michael Chasar
Michael,
Just go to the Iowa Workshop web page for information.
Lew
Well lookee there!
I wonder if they'll let me attend, since even though I got my PhD from Iowa, I didn't get my creative writing degree from there. I think I'll drop a note and ask if I can watch the panels; maybe they'll deign to give me a press pass, and if they don't, maybe I'll write about how Iran and Libya let in reporters but not the Workshop....
Thanks for the heads up. Since I'll be in Iowa City already, this might be fun to see. And, more important perhaps, it will certainly make for a livelier bar scene that week!
Best,
Mike
Hola, Y'All,
This morning I took a look at the Iowa Writes’ Workshop 75th website and it's amazing how few people from our 60s bunch are among the panelists for various events. No Turco, no Everwine, no Wiseman, no Rutsala, no Slesinger, no Keithley, not even a Marvin Bell. Wassupwiddat? The only 50s-60s person is Phil Levine, and from the mid-60s there's only James Tate. You'd think the workshop only had "successful" graduates starting in the mid-70s. Ridiculous.
Pax et Poesis,
Bob B.
Doesn't seem right.
Tad Richards
Hey,
I never got a Workshop degree either, only an English M. A., and they invited me, but not (for the second time) to be on the program. I guess I'm too old for the younger crowd.
Lew
Well, I'll keep your M.A. in mind as a counter-argument for when they reject my request.
I think Phil Levine is the only person on the reunion program who was at Iowa when Engle was Workshop Director, no? I guess this will add up to a festschrift of sorts for Frank Conroy.
So maybe it's not that you're too old (in this case); maybe you just had the good fortune of studying with a guy the Workshop doesn't particularly want to remember.
That's my 2 cents at least.
Best,
Mike
Lew,
I received & read yr essay. Beautifully written. I plan to reread it. I learned about Mezey's perambulations. I had no idea.... I always liked some of his early poems. You both are so adept. Thank you for sending it. I keep it near me so when I relax at home, I can read it at my leisure.
Marlene Rosen Fine
Lew -
The Mezey essay just arrived in the mail. I thank you for it, and shall comment when I've had time to look at it properly. God knows Mezey deserves serious treatment and, from me, even after that workshop "thing," which I took less seriously than he did, much personal gratitude which I can't discuss. More later.
Chris Wiseman
Lewis,
Thrilled to see the Mezey essay, he deserves so much more recognition (compared to other poets of his generation) than he has gotten. Congratulations and many thanks!
Best,
Nicholas Birns
P. S. And "Vetus Flamma" sure packs a punch!
Dear Friends,
As you know I just married into Iowa City, so speak, and Barbara's relatives have recently sent me clippings about the 75th Aniiversary stuff for the Workshop. I was pretty ticked off before but now I'm angry, on behalf of Don/Jean and Paul Engle. The way they are being relegated is absolutely appalling. Talk about revisionist history.
The Iowa City Press-Citizen takes much of its space up with 3 photos of unknown young poets reading to about 12 people at Prairie Lights. Names I've never heard of. It lists the Pulitzer Prize winners from Iowa and DOES NOT MENTION Don Justice though it lists 7 others. Don is not mentioned ONCE in the article about the history of the workshop, and Paul in small print among a list of Directors only. They quote a 23 yr. old student, brag about the 3,500 books in the groaning library of Dey House, and then quote, at length, from James McPherson, a current faculty member, about "the pursuit of Numen" he helps his students achieve. Don and Paul and all of our generation of their students might as well not exist.
The Cedar Rapids Gazette is not much better though it gives more space. It mentions Don only in a small Who's Who of the Iowa Workshop, and actually, at the very end, has a tiny photo of him, with 6 others, as, get this, "Notable Graduates" of the Workshop. Not a word about his teaching there - that list of teachers includes, of course, such long-term stalwarts of the programme as Kurt Vonnegut and Philip Roth, Cheever and Lan Samantha Chang. Hah. Nary a word about Don's teaching there. Flannery O'Connor, Jane Smiley, John Irving, of course, are prominent.
Anyway, I could go on. But nobody from our generation of writers gets one solitary friggin' mention, and Don and Paul are just being written out of the history of the place. Sorry to go on, but this upsets me greatly. Rita Dove but no Justice. Marvin gets a 2 line mention in a list. Dora Malech, D.A.Powell Haki R. Madhubuti, Mary Swander - but no Donald Justice.
I'm sorry to bend your ears but I can't believe it really. And I just wonder what Jean feels when her husband, one of the very very finest teachers and poets of his generation (IMHO the finest), is ignored in this crass, insensitive and ignorant way. Not to mention him in a list of Pulitzer winners is just disgusting. I feel insulted, and also upset on behalf of all of the 50s and 60s people who were there. People went to Iowa to work with Don. I was there 3 years and the last two were completely because I wanted to work with Don, and Paul got me scholarships. Oh I could go on. As could you all, and many many others who've done, shall we say, not too badly.... What is up with the Iowa people? Is Chang just incompetent or is there a "forget the old farts" movement going on there? It's a real disgrace.
Best to you from a hot Wyoming and a hot-under-the-collar ex-workshop member.
Chris Wiseman
[Marvin Bell has asked that his e-mail to Bob Berner. reprinted in this spot, be removed because his remarks were "personal" and not for publication. I take it that the following interview, which he gave for publication, is not included in the proscribed material. L. T.]
Katie,
Here below are your questions with my responses to each, on or off the track.
• What was your time at the Workshop like? Which building were you in, what was the class structure and the creative process like?
--I was a graduate student bum in the Writers’ Workshop mid-year 1961 to mid-year 1964. We met in a wooden building that was part of a complex of temporary buildings north of the student union. There was but one section of poetry and one of fiction. The only employee was one secretary. The office was one small room with a bathroom in which the toilet flushed hot water. Between the office and the front room, where the workshops met, there was a small windowless room. The front room had a bay window in which sat a sculpture of the entwined torsos of a man and woman. The worksheets were dittoed. Everything cost less, our needs were fewer, and it was easy to be a poor student.
• Has the process changed from when you were a student to a teacher to now?
--The process has stayed the same, but the program has changed. Then, there were perhaps two other programs in the country anything like Iowa’s. It was, as they used to say, a “bohemian” lifestyle and vaguely disreputable. It existed here because of one man, Paul Engle, who founded it and raised money for it. Students found their way to the Workshop by circuitous means and were generally older than those of later years. We had an intense and playful community in which the teachers took an active role. Because the Workshop had been founded by a poet, the notion of “poetry” defined the entire workshop, even fiction, so that Leonard Michaels could tell his fiction students, “There’s no such thing as prose. It’s all poetry.”
• Could you give me a "then and now" description about the changes from the time you were a student to the time you left in 2005?
--Basically, it grew. One or two sections in each genre turned into four in poetry and four or five in fiction. Two hour workshops turned into three. The number of applications grew to a thousand. Public readings, which had been uncommon, became common. Tuition climbed and we found ways to offer student aid. More recently, the Workshop has had to hire part-timers and commuters. The sense of community possible then would be impossible now. Another change is the presence of literary theory and its attendant jargon. The biggest thing is that writing workshops have become professional. We were amateurs.
• What is it about Iowa City and the University of Iowa that allowed and allows this program to thrive?
--It’s certain individuals of extraordinary vision and energy. Paul Engle, who developed the program. Hualing Engle, who, with Paul, created the International Writing Program. Christopher Merrill, the current IWP Director, who has redefined it. Of course, it was good to start the program in Iowa City rather than in a large city where distractions are more numerous.
• What are some of the defining characteristics of the Iowa Writer’s Workshop, and why do you think they’ve become a model for so many other programs?
--For one thing, many of the Workshop’s graduates took teaching jobs and began equivalent programs at their colleges. For another, students hunger for programs that say yes, and art is the big yes. The model is simplicity itself: student and teacher are all in this together. We talk about writing in seminars and discuss our own writing in workshops, but all of it is just an excuse for a community of active writers. Once-a-week workshops, once-a-week reading seminars, individual conferences if and when a student wants one—that’s all there is to it. It depends completely on self-motivation.
• Why are creative writing programs an important aspect to our lives?
--Art and philosophy are survival skills. Poetry and fiction are about what life feels like, and that is a matter of one’s inner life. Prose seeks an audience, too, but in poetry, and perhaps in fiction as well, the person who gets the most out of a story or poem is the one who tells or writes it. Moreover, poetry at its best can be another way of thinking. In any case, every person needs something to do in his or her life that they would do even if no one paid them.
• Tell me about the power of story-telling.
--That one’s for a fiction writer. I’m not a fiction writer, but I will venture that art, including fiction, does its most significant work as metaphor. If it’s good enough.
Best,
Marvin
Hey Lew,
Thanks for sending this. I passed it along to my friend Jeff Charis-Carlson, who is Op-Ed editor at the Iowa City Press-Citizen. I've encouraged him to do a "Why I Did Not Attend the Reunion" feature, and he may or may not contact you about some or all or none of the above or below.
How's that for specific?
Jeff is a great guy (I'm godfather to his daughter). He's a journalist who is not in any way held in thrall by the Workshop or its rhetoric.
I've been in I.C. for a week. The pomposity is reaching a fever pitch as
Marilyn Robinson talks tonight and as Mr. I-Donated-all-the-money-for-the-Workshop-to-Build-a-New-Library hosts a soiree. Me? I'll be at the Foxhead, where the locals have already been making plans to vacate for the weekend.
I think there is a "forget the old farts" movement. Silent, perhaps. But
deadly....
Yours,
Mike Chasar
Dear Lew—
Below is an e-mail I sent to Marvin yesterday. I suspect he's sick of the whole business of the snubbing of 60s people and sending Engle and Justice down the memory hole. He's sick, Chris Wiseman is furious, and I'm downright flabbergasted.
Bob Berner
Dear Marvin,
Funny your letter and attached comments about the workshop should come in on a day when there was a piece posted on the "News" section of the Poetry Daily website, an article from a very recent edition of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, an article about IWW75 with some glaring historical errors: it said Raymond Carver was a student at Iowa in the 60s, which I don't remember, and that writers hung out in and one even wrote parts of his novel in a bar called The Deadwood. Du-uuh? In the 60s? I don't think so. As far as I know, in the 60s writers hung out at Kenney's, and sometimes some would gather at The Hawk's Nest over on N. Linn St., at Kessler's on S. Dubuque, and sometimes some of us would drink at George's Buffet, on Market St. just up from Pearson's Drug Store. And you may remember that Pete Everwine played 5-string at the 2 Way Inn, down on the corner of S. Dubuque and Burlington Sts., "owned and operated" by Iowa City's very own mayor, Da Peepl's Cherce, Max "Bullwhip" Yokum. (And after I got back from the Army and married Cecilia Riedel of Pompton Lakes, New Jersey, we lived down on S. Gilbert and we used to go have a beer occasionally just up the street at Speed's Tavern, the only bar I've ever been in that had Falstaff on draught!!!
Now I also know that after Irene lost her lease thanks to the machinations of Old Lady Mars (who also owned the Mars Cafe, up the street), and Kenney's Tavern was history -- this is now the 70s -- workshop people started to hang out at Bernie's Foxhead, corner of Gilbert and Market, directly across from Bernie's brother John's Grocery. Back in the late 50s and early 60s Bernie's was strictly a townie bar and Lawson Inada and I almost got into a fight there one time in the spring of 1960 because one of the patrons "still hated Japs." We finished our beers and beat it before it got truly nasty.
Anyway, all of this is by way of leading up to thanking you, first of all, for your assessment of the differences between the old and more recent workshops. We were indeed lucky to have been students when Don Justice was there -- no one did a better or more thorough job of analyzing and criticizing your stuff and suggesting improvements. And you have no idea how many times I've told myself and others how lucky I was to be a classmate of yours, of Chris Wiseman, Tad Richards, Mike Harper, Vern Rutsala, Warren Slesinger, Lew Turco, and the others of that early 60s bunch.
And I tried to write a letter to the P-I in response to the article, but they would not let me "register"--for some reason they wouldn't accept any password I tried to put up, and without being registered you can't send them a letter via e-mail.
Anyway, check out the posting, via the News at Poetry Daily and you'll see why I keep asking myself, "How come they never talk to someone who was there back then?"
Well, in a way I'm a bit sorry a bunch of us from that 60s group aren't gathering, say, around The Black Angel. We could have a few beers and a Pizza Sub from The Mill, and sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the death of poets.
Well, tush, man, this cup too shall pass.
Pax et Poesis,
Bob
Dear Lew —
And here's an exchange I had with Marvin yesterday. The Seattle paper's article is exemplary of what happens when reporters neglect original sources.
Bell. [DELETED]
Berner. You called it — self-promotion. Chris Wiseman is right to be angry about their ignoring Paul Engle and Don Justice; Paul made the Workshop famous, Don made it work.
Bell. [DELETED]
Berner. I knew you were being reticent when I first e-mailed you about the absence of 60s people from the IWW75 panels and you simply said you'd be in Port Townsend. I place that statement right up there with another classic of understatement, from Curt Zimanksy. I met him on the campus one day and said, "I think I'd better warn you, Skellings is coming to town," and he said, "I'll be at the Huntington Library studying minor poets."
Bell. [DELETED]
Berner. Yeah, why is it that someone who's been there for as little as 5 years can tell a reporter all about people and places and events of forty years ago. Why don't they ask you? Or, say, Sven Armens, or Bob Sayre, or Bob Kremenak from the dental school, or maybe even John or Bernie Alberhasky if they're still alive?
Those who are ignorant of history are certain to falsify it.
Pax et Veritas,
Bob
Dear Friends,
I think perhaps I've been a nuisance, getting angry about this Workshop reunion. And I suspect that you all know more than I - only recently back in the Iowa "swim" - about the background to the whole thing. For this I apologise, but I don't for a second apologise for my feelings, which I think are legitimate and justified. As someone who was never on any contact list from the IWW - it was Lew who got them to send me an invite in the mail as well as online - I'm not incredibly surprised that I had lost touch, but when I saw the program for the 75th. festivities, I was gobsmacked. One or two big names leading discussions, but the large number of very important writers who were not there and relegated to "any alumni may read...." at 10pm. after a day of readings and talks, in a "room TBA, really got to me. No need for me to list all the people, you all included, who were there during my 1959-62 stay, who have gone on to become extremely distinguished, award-winning, Laureates, and to see NONE of those names, even Strand or Harper or Keithley or Rutsala or Perry, etc. etc. or all of you - well I could simply not believe it.
Worse, however, was the relegation of Paul Engle and Don Justice - two people without whose tireless work and superb teaching and example I'm sure the Workshop would have found it difficult to continue in any credible fashion, and I must include you, Marvin, in this too - to some sort of minor figures, was intolerable to me. When I was sent to IC and Cedar Rapids papers and read the stuff about IWW75, I was even more exercised. Don Justice not even mentioned in the list of Pulitzer winners or IWW teachers, but just as an "alumnus" who had two named books published. And Paul merely mentioned in a list in passing. Just outrageous. I wrote to Jean Justice and she sent a very gracious reply, saying that she is trying to ignore all the ignoring, but she sounded hurt all the same. I feel very strongly for her in this re-writing of history worthy of the old Soviet Union. And when Bob Berner wrote to the Chang person about the ignoring of 50s and 60s writers in the 75th. celebrations, she did not even have the courtesy or professionalism to reply. That's made me angry too. And Lew - your comment that "poetry is dead in Iowa City" is profoundly sad. Marvin, your calm resigned mail and your very placid and restrained answers to the newspaper questions is a model of resigned knowledge that we are all dinosaurs and that the relegation of yourself and all of our generation is inevitable.
I am trying to let myself do what Marvin so wisely suggests. That is to be grateful for what we had at the IWW and let this new lot promote themselves to their heart's content as protest isn't going to do any good. I'm finding this hard, largely because I feel that Paul, Don, Jean, Marvin especially, but also all of our generation are being insulted by being so blatantly ignored. But I'm finding my anger still burbling inside.
I had 3 great years in Iowa City. I had intended to go for one, but then realised that Don was the person I needed to learn from, and he remained a mentor until he died, though laregely by mail. He kept me writing at a very difficult time in the years after I left Iowa and went to Scotland. He shared a lot with me, gave me invaluable advice when I was fighting to start the Creative Writing Program at the U. of Calgary and he, Jean and I met in London for lunch in the 1990s which pleased me greatly. And all of you - thanks Bob Berner for helping us stay in touch - have been encouraging and warm friends, even though we haven't seen much of each other during the post-Iowa years. Several of you, in particular, helped me through a very difficult time 5-6 years ago, and, yes, I guess that is the legacy of the IWW I should value and remember - the friendships, the good times, the new poems, Paul's getting me Fellowships to stay there, Don's mentorship and learning about poetry, writing, music, life from you and others there. Believe me, I value those things more than I can say. Don's comments on my books. And the swapping of books with several of you. These things keep that time alive, and I should celebrate that and not feel so angry.
But I still say that a huge insult is evident to me on behalf of Paul and Don especially, and I find that petty, unprofessional, and difficult to forget. But I still remember with great fondness those blue worksheets and some of the poems on them, and even the appalling Skellings seems a tad more tolerable with 50 years of hindsight, though not too much so. "I like the sonnet form very much" - Bob Mezey, when asked if he liked Skellings' sonnet remains a priceless memory.
So, I do apologise for opening a can of worms, if that's what I did, but I know that you all feel much the same about things and I shall try to swallow my bile. "Gentle breath of yours my sails must fill" - and it does, though I am far from Prospero. I shall allow my affection for so many people, a fantastic workshop, and a great little college town, to prevent bitterness, though I think those arranging this reunion should be utterly ashamed of themselves.
All best,
Chris
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